LHC: Hawking v Higgs

As you may have heard, the LHC at CERN has had a technical setback (see here and here). It will take several months to fix, so it’s a good time to do a post on a matter I’ve been meaning to discuss…

An unexpected aspect of the media coverage of the LHC startup was a public disagreement between two world-famous physicists: cosmologist Stephen Hawking and particle physicist Peter Higgs (the latter first postulated the existence of the Higgs field and the famous Higgs boson).

Stephen Hawking and Peter Higgs: disagree on existence of the Higgs boson

Hawking has renewed his bet of 100$ that the Higgs boson will not be found at the LHC, making the point that it will make for more interesting physics if it isn’t. (The Higgs boson is the one particle of the Standard Model of particle physics that has not ben detected experimentally, and it is is crucial to the theory (see post below) – any evidence that it doesn’t exist at the energies expected would force a radical think of the Standard Model

Not for the first time, Peter Higgs has not responded kindly to Steven Hawking’s remarks, stating that he feels that the Hawking analysis is seriously flawed…this story got great coverage in the press, and you can read the view of physicists on it about it here and here.

I suspect there is more to this story than meets the eye: Peter Higgs is an extremely quiet, self-effacing scientist, long retired, who rarely comments on physics in public or seeks the limelight. His reaction to Hawking’s bet is not attention-seeking, but represents the view of the particle physics community (I have often heard similar views expressed by particle physicists I know). After all, one of the  major reasons for building the LHC in the first place is precisely the detection of the Higgs particle -  in other words, most particle physicists expect it to show up at the energies available.

It’s worth remembering that theoretical particle physics is a very special branch of physics. Concerned primarily with the worlds of quantum physics (because particles are so small) and that of special relativity (because small particles can travel at relativistic speed), it has traditionally been considered to be the most difficult, abtruse and mathematical area of all of physics. Cosmology, by contrast, was considered a fairly speculative science until the 1970s. It’s only in recent years that cosmology has started to attract great theoreticians such as Roger Penrose and Stephen Hawking. However, although Hawking is highly respected as a cosmologist (and as a great populariser of science), he frequently comments on fields far from his area of expertise  – notably on particle physics. It’s unfortunate, as he occasionally makes fairly outlandish statements that really irritate the particle physicists.

Thousands of particles explode from the collision point of two gold ions in the STAR detector of the Relativistic Heavy Ion Collider. Electrically charged particles are discernible by the curves they trace in the detector’s magnetic field.

That said, in the same statement it’s interesting that Hawking says that he thinks there is a good chance that supersymmetry (see post below) might be seen at the LHC - which is nice to hear. Generally, evidence for supersymmetry is expected to be more elusive than evidence for the Higgs – but if found, SUSY will open up a whole new vista in particle physics (while evidence for the Higgs will close a chapter). Hence, I for one suspect Hawking’s bet on the Higgs was taken with tongue firmly in cheek.

Update: there is a very nice (and rare) interview with Peter Higgs in last week’s issue of New Scientist. In the interview, Higgs hints that, as a new generation of mathematicians turned their attention to the Higgs field in the 1970s, he began to feel a little out of his mathematical depth. He turned to the emerging field of supersymmetry, but soon ran into the same problem. Intruiging that even the best minds could have problems with the maths of particle physics!

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5 responses to “LHC: Hawking v Higgs

  1. Still lurking Doc..
    great site and great topics..
    ( I link to you around the web..sorry)
    your friend..
    The Hoopster

  2. cormac

    Hey Hoops, good to hear from ya…yeah, there always seems to be some science in the news worth blogging about, I’m not sure I expected the blog to last this long!

  3. Pingback: Avoiding Black Hole Car Habits | Thinking Beyond Numbers

  4. As recently it was quitely announced that LHC didn’t find Higgs? please advise account to send worn $100 bet of Stephen Hawking

    Vladimir Z

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